Released: February 14. 2015

We know people do horrible stuff, but why? Is there really such a thing as evil, or are bad people just sick? If so, how do we handle them?

intro

Theme includes sample of Run For You by Buke & Gase. Check them out! Intro background music is a song by Múm.

my friend dahmer

Derf Backderf, author of My Friend Dahmer, talks about his high school days with the strange kid who would soon become the notorious serial killer. This interview is preceded by a victim statement at the sentencing hearing of a different serial killer, David Spader, aka the BTK killer.

a psychologist and a cop walk into a bar…

A police psychologist and a detective throw back a few on the night of John Wayne Gacy’s execution as they hash out the nature of evil and how to deal with it. Written by Daniel Kaufman. Performed by Dan and Wesley Middleton.

bad brains

Adrian Raine, author of The Anatomy of Violence: The Biological Roots of Crime explains how brains go bad and how we might better deal with their owners.

get the lead out

Rick Nevin, a senior economist with ICF International, makes a compelling case that a major cause of violent crime has been… lead.

serpent

A snake defends his kind. Written by Daniel Kaufman. Performed by Brandon Drea, Original scoring by Lee Rosevere.

fun being evil

Maria Bamford opens up about her dark side in a track from How to Win!

the quality of mercy

Shakespeare’s famous soliloquy from The Merchant of Venice performed by Candace Hammer, with orignial score by Neal Wright.

revenge

William Ian Miller author of Eye for an Eye, chats with Dan about the old ways of settling scores.

forgiveness

Frederic Luskin author of Forgive for Good, explains how to let go.

thanks

Production assistance (and Hearthstone pwning) by Bryan Lotz. Thanks to Pam Cash, Ellis Greer, and Jennifer Boznos for help behind the scenes. Pete Chapman provided the background ambience for the bar scene. Congrats to the lovely and talented Julia Knippen for winning the song suggestion contest this episode!

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Photograph: John Wayne Gacy as Pogo the Clown

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